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14 May 1879: "Once a coolie, always a coolie?" As descendants of the Girmitiyas 'celebrate' 135 years in Fiji, the old suspicions still follow them:  Tupeni Baba's frank e-mail appraisal provokes indignant disbelief!

13/5/2014

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"As a group that are already been broken up by colonisation and when they came through the 'Girmit' they crossed the 'kala pani' or muddy water(ocean) which means that all their cultural and caste identities have been stripped off them.They are therefore no longer constrained by any 'vakavanua system' and it works both ways for them.Their suicide rate is very high but one ting is clear, they know they cannot rely on anybody and they will try anything that works for them.This is why come elections, they will band together make up any of their differences because they know, its the one continuing hope for them."
Dr Tupeni Baba way off the mark in e-mail

PictureBaba (above) and Nirmal Singh
new convert to Sodelpa
"Let me just comment briefly on the Indo Fijian situation For them politics is life, it is the only way forward apart from education.

They will mortgage their farms and pay for the fees of their children but politics is the leverage through which they can access all the other conditions they cannot access otherwise.

"As a group that are already been broken up by colonisation and when they came through the 'Girmit' they crossed the 'kala pani' or muddy water(ocean) which means that all their cultural and caste identities have been stripped off them.They are therefore no longer constrained by any 'vakavanua system' and it works both ways for them.Their suicide rate is very high but one ting is clear, they know they cannot rely on anybody and they will try anything that works for them.

"This is why come elections, they will band together make up any of their differences because they know, its the one continuing hope for them.

"In Fiji today, their Parties are divided. FLP is badly broken, all the Leaders except Mahen Chaudhary and his sons are with the father.Kris Datt has finally decided to break out and is the process of forming a Party. He is 'testing the waters' and trying hard to attract others who had been disillusioned with the old FLP like Poseci,Atu Bain and others.They are trying to get me back but that is no longer possible. KDatt is also looking to us to take him in, but we should not at this stage, do anything. Let him stew in his pot a little while!

"The trade union wing of FLP (Felix and co) is looking another way.They prefer to keep the 'FLP brand' but the question now is who is going to tie the bell on the neck of the Cat (Mahen Chaudhary)?They are scheming MC's downfall and once that is done, they will resuscitate the FLP.When that is done,'all hands will be on deck' including KDatt,Poseci, Mahen's friends and all the crowd and survivors of the Titanic ship.The Party can be revived within a month with resources from overseas as well as brain work from overseas.

"The appearance of division and chaos at the moment belies the plotting and the planning and of course the scheming that is going on. Mr Jai Ram Reddy recently visited them. He would have advised them what strategy to take and when Mahen is 'handcuffed' by the Court and prevented from participating,the rebuilding of the Party will start and that will be the call for 'all hands on deck'

"At that point, everything and everybody will be 'brothers and sisters' again' and that can take no more than a month.They do not need to 'take the tabua' around to call everybody back. Every body knows the drill....

"The script is already written, right down to the catch cry; it is in the Holy Book-the Gita.When the catch cries are heard such as: 'We must do our duty' or 'It is in our Karma' so we must do it for our future....!When you hear this, you know they are ready...

"What about us, are we ready?
"Sa dri yani!
Tupeni" - Dr Tupeni Baba's e-mail reportedly from 2012

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Fiji is still a Banana republic - Indian indentured labourers never envisaged it will be in 2014!
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Jai Ram Reddy-accused of "uniting" Indo-Fijians
"One politician who tried to become the leader of SODELPA made the totally false and ridiculous allegation in an email that Mr Jai Ram Reddy (former leader of NFP) was collaborating with the FLP leader (Mr Chaudhry) to unite the “Indians”,  and he asked his own party “what are we Fijians doing”! One would have thought that political leaders would by now have stopped using divisive racial politics

"In large measure, the support that Bainimarama gets from many Indo-Fijians (and also from many kailoma and kaivalagi) is due to this message of equality of all races...Non-indigenous Fijian votes, although only 35% of all votes, may well be critical in deciding which parties form government in the next parliament."
- Professor Wadan Narsey:


http://www.fijileaks.com/2/post/2014/03/professor-narseys-bulletin-six-there-is-no-need-for-affirmative-action-for-the-bottom-90-of-the-populations-where-fijians-and-indo-fijians-are-pretty-similar-in-terms-of-household-income-and-expenditure.html


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135 years later their descendants still object of "whipping" in Fiji
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SELLOUT
13/5/2014 06:36:39 am

Yes, there is no Fijian and Indian blood stored separately, says Nirmal Singh1

Go and tell Tupeni Baba, you new found racist friends and political allies in Sodelpa, Nirmal

Tuesday, May 13, 2014

AN aspiring politician has urged those who are yet to register to vote in the general election to do so.

Nirmal Singh of the Social Democratic Liberal Party said a voter’s most powerful weapon was his/her vote.

“It is your vote that will decide the future of your country and the future of your posterity,” he said.

“It is your vote which will decide who will represent you in parliament.

“The quality of the next parliament will be determined by your vote.

“Don’t blame parliamentarians later on because it is your choice.

“Don’t underestimate the power of your vote because it is your vote that will make or break the nation. Go out and register to vote and reclaim your country.”

Mr Singh also said people who thought the two major races could not mix should go to squatter settlements to see how the people lived side by side in the face of poverty and hardship.

“If you are still not convinced, then go and visit places when natural disaster strikes to see how people mix.

“If you are still not convinced, then go to any of our hospitals in the country.

“There is no ‘Fijian’ or ‘Indian’ blood marked and stored separately.

“If our blood can mix, then why can’t we.

“It is our perception and unsubstantiated fear of each other that is preventing us to mix.

“Let’s reach out to each other and then see for yourself how well we mix.”

Meanwhile, Mr Singh said the vanua, the church and the Bose Levu Vakaturaga (Great Council of Chiefs) were the three pillars of the iTaukei identity which should be maintained .

“You reform these three pillars to meet the challenges of the time but you do not abolish it. You cannot bring two races of people together by making laws. It must come through your heart and our younger generations are just doing that.”

Mr Singh also said people must be allowed to listen to everyone who was seeking to stand for the election, individually and as a party.

He said they must consider the pros and cons before making their judgment


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Rajesh
13/5/2014 02:57:09 pm

Baba worked under MPC so my advise is we need united fiji free from racial politics.
we all god children no race/no colour .
we need to be united to defeat BK FFP.

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Shewolf
13/5/2014 01:24:28 pm

Tuppenny Baba is such a racist. This is similar to what Hitler said about the Jews.

And Baba hopes to get across the board support for Sodelpa. You are dreaming mate.

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Frank
13/5/2014 02:31:30 pm

Poor Nirmala. The big loser in all of this....he was pdp spokesman but wanted to be leader....made an absolute fool of himself when he walked out of PDP. Now he is under Temumu's skirt.
What a joke!!

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political scoundrel link
13/5/2014 04:21:13 pm

the email exposes the true Tupeni Baba. I know him to be an anti - Indian racist from my USP days. he just teamed up with the multiracial FLP because he is also a political opportunist. there is of course another description for such types . they are political scoundrels.

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Closet racist
13/5/2014 06:08:10 pm

All that needs to be said about Tupeni Baba is that his is a simplistic analysis by a failed politician and and an academic who never rose above mediocrity in his academic career.

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Rubbish, has-been academic
14/5/2014 11:39:31 pm

Rubbish analysis by a rubbish former academic. Best thing SODEPLA did was not to appoint cunning hate monger like Tupeni Baba as leader. His is not leadership material. He is an old thinker, still stuck in 1970s/80s. He does not deserve a SODELPA ticket either. He should be sent to retirement.

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NOT SO RACIST
15/5/2014 09:37:28 pm

Academics read out history from printed books.

His comments as an academic is based on written down description of those travelling the months through the kala pani to make their journey to Fiji.

Hi scommenst more sit on the side of history of any migrant race in any country. They all have same outlook to interests including politics.

But Indegenous race is always laid back because they have own resources to fall back on so two races are demografically apart.

His point of view caomes from the constituents he once represented - the cane farmers by being a FLP member.

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Shallow academics
16/5/2014 06:16:50 pm

Fijian race is so laid back they marched in their thousands in 1987 and 2000 and helped overthrow two governments and burn part of Suva down and plan a mutiny and elect SDL by 80 percent of vote.

And Mahen Chaudhry and Jai Ram Reddy and NFP and FLP have been faking their enmity to mask a grand Indian design to take over Fiji. Yes, NFP deliberately lost all seats in elections to FLP because of a grand plan. Yeah right! what a brilliant analysis by Baba.

That's why Indian birthrate has been lower then Fijians since the 1970s - because of a grand plan to takeover Fiji. If Mr Tupeni Baba is such a great reader of history, how come he left out this population fact from his analysis?

Mr Baba not only needs to revise his understanding of history, he has to take his head out of the history books and get a dose of reality also. he needs to stop looking at everything from the prism of race, hard as it may be for someone like him.

One wonders what he has leant from his academic training. No wonder he never rose to any great heights as an academic and remained mired in mediocrity. His thinking is quite shallow. Its people like him who keep repeating that Fijians are laid back that make the problem among his people worse and give them an inferiority complex, than blame others.

Dalip Chand
16/5/2014 11:56:25 pm

Give the Indians some land that they can own,without the fear of being taken back by the fijians,then see how they mix.Otherwise you are making a joke of yourself.

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