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Thirty three years later...the wild tongue of firebrand Apisai Tora returns to Parliament - another parliamentary era but "kaisi" language still alive!

11/2/2015

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HISTORY repeats itself. Shortly after the bitterly fought 1982 general election, Apisai Tora claimed in Parliament that the action of the NFP in the then election was a show of arrogance (viavialevu) and insults heaped on the Fijian chiefs could only be made by people belonging to the lowest caste (kaisi bokola botoboto). An NFP parliamentarian, Jai Raj Singh, protested against the Fijian terms used by Tora, but the Alliance Speaker Tomasi Vakatora (who earlier had defeated the FNP leader Sakiasi Butadroka in his Rewa constituency) overruled the objection, saying the words had been used in the Fijian Parliament. Excerpted from  Victor Lal, Fiji: Coups in Paradise - Race, Politics and Military Intervention

Now, thirty three years later, WHO said "Kaisi" in the Fijian Parliament?

Insults in Parliament

Fred Wesley, Fiji Times
Wednesday, February 11, 2015


THE Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama appeared riled about an insult he said was levelled at an MP in Parliament yesterday.

Chiefly titles, he said, and insulting remarks should be kept outside Parliament.

He was responding to an alleged derogatory remark made from the Opposition bench at yesterday's parliamentary sitting.

It obviously pricked a nerve in the PM and he warned members of Parliament to be careful with what they say.

"It's very insulting to hear one of our members being insulted from across the room from that side with the iTaukei insult 'kaisi'," he said.

He believes such insulting remarks were not good for the House because it did not augur well for the relationship they wanted to establish in Parliament for the people of Fiji.

Speaker of Parliament Dr Jiko Luveni endorsed the PM's sentiment, urging MPs to adhere to the rules of Parliament.

Chiefly titles, the PM said, had no place in the Parliament.

"That's nothing. Worse things have been said in Parliament by the PM himself," Opposition leader Ro Teimumu Kepa retorted.

Opposition member Roko Tupou Draunidalo insisted members on the Opposition bench were not "cry-babies" to report on petty issues.

Under the Constitution, every member of Parliament, and anyone else speaking in the House, has (a) freedom of speech and debate in Parliament or its committees, subject to the standing orders; and (b) parliamentary privilege and immunity in respect of anything said in Parliament or its committees.

However, Parliament may prescribe the powers, privileges and immunities of members of Parliament and may make rules and orders for the discipline of members.

Given the attention taken up by the interjections in Parliament yesterday, and the alleged insult raised by the PM, one would hope the focus is not diverted away from the important issues before our representatives.

Clearly there are many issues of national interest and questions before Parliament.

This is the place where such issues should be raised and discussed, and hopefully bring about some sort of closure or answers, and solutions.


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17 Comments
Bill Carson
10/2/2015 05:52:31 pm

Who used the "kaisi" word in Parliament?

Name and Shame please !!!

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Sleeping Sorry...
11/2/2015 06:35:32 am

The hansard reporters were caught sleeping this time around...Sorry!

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More Important
11/2/2015 10:23:19 am

Who said it is not as important as who it was said to.

That's the Kaisi!

Maybe...
11/2/2015 10:29:45 am

Maybe the word used was not 'Kaisi' but 'kai Se'. Now that's a totally different ball game isn't it?

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Yep
10/2/2015 06:57:51 pm

A one time centre stage player in Fiji politics of the dirty kind and now a washed out old fart who still longs to be in the political spotlight.
Time for Apisai / Mohammed Tora to make peace with his Maker for all the political mischief he did to some many innocent people.

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Canada Boy
10/2/2015 07:45:00 pm

Why is Frank now talking about insaulting remarks
He has insulted a broad base of the population over the past 8 years and continued to do do under his arrogant way of running government in a so called dictatorship democracy
He should spend time listening to question period in the Cabadian and British parlianent where the prime ministers is always grinded by the opposition during question period so Frank should learn how to sharpen his parliament debate skills and stop complaining

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No Insults, Praise
11/2/2015 04:55:04 am

In praise of Victor Lal – and Fijileaks!

A very good deed, Victor Lal, a very good deed - Indeed.!

Citizens’ award of Honour is yours! - Because you are an awesome journalist. You are a journalist of some depth. Your quest for TRUTH and your drive for it are Gandhi and King, bhai. You are an activist journalist who brings about change and makes things happen. Your most admirable quality is for saying things - as is – without fear or favour.

You are a HERO! You have all the rights to feel vindicated – and we share your moment of feeling vindicated with you. God bless you!

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Agree 100%
11/2/2015 06:04:35 am

Well Done Fijileaks!

Victor we are looking forwards to reading your book on Gandhi. Push your work in progress - get it finished. Don't be too distracted the careerist Chors like Khaiyum and Vorere.

Best wishes.

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Victory For Truth
11/2/2015 08:06:23 am

awesome stuff man . fiji leaks is the only truth media I have read . Fijian news is crap . fiji sun creates stories like old story tellers. no truth . reminds me of the bullshit that use to appear in The Sun in England. and fiji times are scared shirtless.

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Only a Kaisi
11/2/2015 05:00:47 am

Only a Kaisi will Choro / butaku another Party's name! Men of no self-respect, themselves, are now teaching others manners!

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Stamp Duty Chor
11/2/2015 06:44:47 am

Only a Kaisi like Mida Raj swindles the system and avoids stamp duty fraudulently and rides on the TAX dollars partying in Paris.

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Fools of Paradise
11/2/2015 08:10:56 am

this is so funny , the black English man , speak no lie do no lie but continue to lie . what a bloody hippopotamus. seriously what the hell FICAC doing ??

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And
11/2/2015 01:21:03 pm

Just a friendly reminder to the PM Frank Bainimarama : it is not only insults in parliament But insults to anybody anywhere that is unacceptable and unbecoming of a person who purports to be a national leader.
I am sure Fr Kevin Barr will agree.

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tualeita
11/2/2015 01:24:47 pm

A chief will be a "kaisi" if he demeans his position by calling his people and others "kaisi" and treats them as objects of his greed and gluttony. This, we call in the Fijian language "i tovo vakaisi".

And even a commoner will be chiefly in character and behaviour when he exemplifies the "i tovo vakaturaga" he is taught at home.

These are regardless of what hereditary lineage we come from.

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That's why
11/2/2015 11:32:57 pm

The truth hurts...Poor soul, God have mercy on you.

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A good Cartoon
11/2/2015 11:37:26 pm

A very good Cartoon T4F of the 'kaisi', murderer, torturer, liar and a women-basher reflected in the mirror.

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S
12/2/2015 03:29:10 am

Seriously man, I didn't hear that comment until PM said it in his speech. I wonder who said to whom, while I suspect it must have been the big cry-baby AG who cried to PM during the tea break. Ironically, AG yelled at someone during his speech "What you laughing at?". Doesn't that require disciplining too? Or is the opposition MPs not entitled to RESPECT! Seriously people, show some manners in the "Honorable" house or else your mothers/wives/kids might take the cue lol!

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